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    Embracing Your Channeling Journey To Abundance | Podcast with Gabriella Alziari

    Embracing Your Channeling Journey To Abundance | Podcast with Gabriella Alziari

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    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Hello, beautiful soul. So here I am today. Your host, Yulia and I would love us to welcome warmly Gabriela. She is intuitive channeler and life coach. Gabriela, welcome to the show.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's an honor to be here.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah, it's a really, a really big pleasure for me to have you here as well, because I was amazed by the work which you are doing in the world, and if you could just briefly talk about it, what you're actually doing. What does it mean to be that intuitive channeler? There is so many themes today around that topic. So I just want to hear that specifically from you.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, so I'm a channeler, so I have the ability to connect to people's teams in spirit. So I specifically channel spirit guides. Usually each person has between five to 12 guides on average, and we connect to their messages so that we can be more aligned in our purpose and our highest potential. So I do this through both channeling and coaching, and I've been doing it for about four years now and coaching for much longer. So it's a great pleasure to do this work.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    How did you get there? How did you actually get started? Because I'm pretty sure you didn't just wake up and it happened out of the blue. Or it was the case?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    No, it's a great question. During COVID I studied the tarot tarot cards, and about one year into doing consistent readings, I noticed that I was seeing images in my mind, which we call clairvoyance. And I started being able to connect to spirit and really hear their messages. And then I just kept practicing, and now it's as easy as if they're sitting in the room with me.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Oh, that's interesting. So you started from tarot pathway, and it opened up something in you. You tell me now that you became open to that clairvoyance, and it just stimulated something in, like, triggered something in you that you started hearing and seeing something. Right? Do I hear it correct?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yes, exactly.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    How long did it take you? Actually, the whole process?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    About a year. I was doing tarot readings so frequently during that time, and at first I was just reading the cards, like their symbols and just saying the interpretation of the symbols. But I was noticing a certain flow state was coming over me. And then, because I was in that flow state, after about a year of doing those readings, eventually I noticed other communication from spirit, too.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Wow. Wow. So you can use tarot, you tell me, to open up that cosmic connection within you. Do I hear it?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, for me, I didn't expect that the tarot would result in that outcome. But I love the tarot cards, and I have a deep connection to them, really, because of what they've offered to my life and how they've helped me connect to spirit in this much deeper way.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    How did you get to tarot?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    I got the tarot because one day I was in an old bookstore and I found this deck called Titania's Fortune cards. It's the Lenormand deck. So it's not exactly tarot, but it's similar. And I thought it was very interesting. So I started studying it, and then I began giving readings to my friends, and it was quite easy to learn, and I got very good feedback from it. So I became obsessed with it. And then I started to learn the tarot cards after.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I'm quite intrigued still. So were there any symptoms which you started noticing in yourself physically happening when. Let's say, you are doing readings, right? And I. I don't believe the fact that it somehow was like a spark. Were there some kind of symptoms which you started paying attention to? You, let's say you do your readings and then just, oh, this happened, this happened, this happened. So I would love just to understand that pathway from you so that those who are doing tarotreadings right now here could pay attention to it as well.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Of course. Yeah. The two things I noticed most is I would start to feel a little bit lightheaded and not dizzy exactly, but quite lightheaded. And the second thing was I was noticing I was saying things, and it was coming out of my mouth, but I wasn't putting a lot of thought into what I was saying. It was truly like it was being channeled through me. And that's what I was trying to describe as the flow state, because my readings were very articulate. But I would start saying these specific details, and I didn't know why I was saying it. It was just coming.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    So those were the two first things I began to notice. And then I would say after that, I. I became much more attuned to energy, feeling tingles, shivers in my body, really feeling other people's energy as well. And that was very helpful, too, that I knew something was happening on a larger scale.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I can completely relate to that, because once you start channeling, in fact, there is this interesting thing which is happening to all the channelers. What I observe in everyone who I'm talking to about this topic is that gap. So there is here you, and then you kind of like get aligned with that new energy passing through you. But there is that, I would say that craziness gap, when you are not sure if you are crazy or not at that moment. So I just want to ask you specifically, how did you overcome that breach, that gap, so that you would still stay aligned with this spirit passing through you, but do not go backwards thinking that you are nuts?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, that's a very good question. Honestly, for me, I had a decent sense of what was happening because I had been studying different spiritual topics. So I had some understanding that my channel was opening. So I never thought, oh, I'm going crazy. However, there was a time period for me where it was hard to turn my channel off, meaning that when I went into the grocery store, I was receiving messages for everyone, and I really did not want that. And at that time, I had to really do a lot of energetic protection work and also tell my spirit guides, look, I'm sorry, but I'm happy to be a channeler, but I don't want to be completely open all the time. So that, for me, was the biggest struggle. I also have struggled with fatigue because of all of the information that comes through.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    But over time, I've learned, like, some specific practices and techniques just to protect my aura, balance my energy field, and also receive more energy cleansing, too.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    That's very interesting. So if you could share maybe those practices and techniques with ours, because I think our audience may be very open to that. And many of us, like, who are hearing, like right now. Us and I can relate to these sometimes when something is passing through me, I'm just like, gosh, I would love to have something which will help me to actually cleanse my aura. Right? So especially when we become too sensitive to that energy shift within, within us when we see others.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    All right, so how do you maintain that balance within you? How do, which kind of practices you use, which you already mentioned you use? So if you could maybe open a bit of window.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. So I will say some are very simple, and then some are advanced spiritual techniques where I had to learn from specific healers. And those are very advanced. You know, it takes a lot of practice and a lot of energy work to understand those. But I'll talk about the more simple ones first. So basically, nobody can take your energy, and your energy field can't be sensitive unless there's some kind of subconscious consent. Even, you know, maybe you're talking to a friend and they're dragging at your energy.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    You're trying to be helpful. That is still what we classify as an energy drain or energy vampire. So the first thing is just to say, I do not give consent for anybody to take my energy. And I say that all the time before I go to the grocery store, before I go into a concert or any crowded space. The second thing is, as many people usually know, visualizing white light or gold light around the body can really help. And really visualizing that powerful aura that will immediately bring more light to you, so it will keep you more protected. And then there are some more reactionary techniques where you feel like something has come in to your energy field and you need to cleanse that. For me would be taking a shower or immersing yourself in water.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Or just movement, like going on a run, doing hot yoga, sitting in the sauna. Something that will cleanse out the toxins, because I think of it as energetic residue. So we just want to cleanse that out.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes, Cleansing it physically out. That's very important. I remember when I was going to all the psychic fears and I just had that need on a physical level to go just to the sauna to cleanse it out really.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Me. Because there were so many energies around and you can bomb with everyone.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Totally. Yeah. It's a lot of. It's a lot of energy. It really is. Especially if you're receiving information from above as well as the 3D plane. It's a lot of energy and so it requires a lot of cleansing.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes, yeah, yes. And regarding this technique which you mentioned, that I do not give consent. This is kind of like formed in a negative way. Is it okay that it's stated that way? I mean, when we speak to the universe, we ideally want to speak in the affirmative statement and not in the, with this not. Because what I noticed in my example, like whenever I say something with not, I attract the opposite.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Interesting.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah. So I just. I wanted to ask you about that. So is it always working for you with, with this specific like statement with not I do not give consent?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, it's a good question. You know, I think it's up to the person. It's kind of what they talk about in manifestation techniques too. Like you're supposed to say I am wealthy instead of I am not in debt. For me personally, I don't really mind. I think that if my intention behind it is strong, it still works. And it has always worked for me too. For me, saying I do not give consent is just a very powerful statement.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Like I'm not going to let anybody mess with me, you know, I'm too strong for that. Yeah. But I think it depends on the person.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah. Because you pay attention more even to the intention within you than just physical expression of it. So you basically work more with the etheric body of yours than the physical representation, which is speech here. Do I understand it correct?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yes, it's true. Exactly. Yes. For me everything is energy and words are such a small part of it that it's almost an afterthought, honestly. I think words are very important, but it's more the vibration behind it. So yes.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes, this is much more powerful. Yeah, it's all what I'm saying here and there to people whom I meet and who are open to that. It's one of the words, right?? Which is opened already in the quantum physics, which is energy. It is all about mass multiplied by speed of light quadrant. Right. So Albert Einstein has already proved it scientifically.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Thanks God. So energy is behind everything. So.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Totally, it is.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah, we could operate even with these terms and not just seem to be nuts here.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Totally. Yes. Everything is energy. Absolutely everything.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes. So do you do any specific energy paling work? I mean, because if you become a channel, I know for sure that it's all about how to restore, to rebalance your energy. So is there some, let's say you have a session with a client and is there something what you do so that to bring yourself back to who you are?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, that's a great question too. Yeah. So I am a Reiki practitioner, so I do give myself Reiki every single day. And I also do something I like to call opening and closing my channel. So at the beginning of every session with a client, I say a specific phrase that I created to connect to spirit guides and angels and loved ones from above. And then at the end of the session, I will close after the client is off the phone. And that for me, just closes the energy portal and the energy connection between me and the client, as well as their team of guides. And I've noticed if I don't do that, I will continue to get channeled messages for all of my different clients, and my world will start to become very noisy.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    So it is a necessity for me.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    That is interesting. When you do that channeling, are you conscious or it's kind of like something which is passing through you and you are not conscious in the moment?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    I am conscious, but it's definitely different from my normal state. And the reason is because I can literally feel my energy going up. I feel myself getting lightheaded. I often have to close my eyes because I see more visually in my mind's eye. So distractions become very distracting, like any noises. So I have to set my space up in a certain way to make sure I can really channel and drop in and get accuracy of messages. But also, it's just practice. I've been doing it for a year, so now it's quite easy for me, whereas at the beginning it took some time.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    How do you set up your sacred space?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, I have a set of sprays that I use. So I'll just sit down, I'll light a candle, I'll invite spirit in, and then usually I'll use my energy cleansing sprays. And I also have my sage and my palo santo. And this, to me, is just activating. It's like inviting in spirit. I'll open my channel, say the phrase I always say, and then do the client work. So, yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Do you still work with the tarot cards?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    I do, but rarely. Not because I don't love them, but because at a certain point it started to feel like another distraction because I had to focus very hard on what exactly spirit was saying to really understand the message clearly. So looking at something while I'm doing that was taking me out of the channeling. And so it started to feel like a prop that I didn't necessarily need. But I do love the tarot and I still teach classes on tarot, so it's always going to be a love of mine.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I have that interesting realization as well that when you go to a certain level of expertise with tarot, it's, and I'm in tarot for more than 10 years myself, you always want to get deeper. And if you just stay on the same level, basically and just use the same things, you. You don't really develop. You don't. You kind of like be stagnant, right? So, yeah, just the same.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Like in the corporate job, if you do the same thing again and again. So what I see with many here who are going seriously with this tool just like you, that's a very interesting case, when it opened up that channeling capability in you, that cosmic connection in fact, they start utilizing it in a much more exquisite, subtle, intricate levels. So, yes, working, combining it, making like that eclectic weaving. So.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    That's a real interesting thing to observe.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    It is. Well. And the tarot is beautiful. Yeah. I have a YouTube channel, so I did pick a card readings on YouTube for years. And the thing I loved about using the tarot was there's so many different decks and artistic interpretations of the cards. And that also can keep it very exciting because it's almost a relationship between you, the person you're reading for, and then the artist that wove their energy into the deck too.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes. Because it's in fact, like, it's a really connection to cosmos, what is happening through art. I see how our current system of education, if we look at it, it does everything so that we are not connected to art and we memorize stuff. And then I see clients of mine who come to me and they try to memorize, memorize keywords of tarot.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Because we need to get connected to fear.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Right.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    This is. This is the trap which was in fact imposed on us through our education when we had to memorize so much stuff since the age of seven or earlier. It's like it's a real, real trap here in this matrix.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah. It keeps us in the mind instead of in the heart. And in my experience, being too much in the mind or in the ego is what disconnects us from our true nature, our soul.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes. And then we start trying to connect to cosmos again, get back. Because it's basically feeling like a desert of materialism here already. And then we start connecting. Right. Searching for those flows of abundance. Because here everything feels so limited. Correct me?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yes.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    And then we keep using the same wiring which we were taught since childhood. And there is no, our fault there. It's how we were taught, in fact.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, it absolutely is. That's interesting. You're talking about this. It's something I work on in my coaching groups. I talk about how when we're young, up until we're seven, everything just comes in, and we don't really have a filter to cancel anything out. So all of those things become our subconscious beliefs. Especially if someone's dealing with a scarcity mindset or feeling abandoned, you know, it gets ingrained in us, and then those.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    That's so unfair, yeah. Just feels like coming here like sponges. You take everything in and then you have to deal with that crap your whole life.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yes. And it takes a lot of work to release those old thought patterns. It really does. That's for my journey. That's been something that has taken a lot of work. So. Yes. But it's worth it.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    It helps.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes. So what was that trigger for you to get to that level of awareness that, hey, I. I have to get started now. It's just. I just have to. Because everyone has a beautiful story around your time, and I just want to understand your story.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, I mean, honestly, things in my life were not going well at a certain point because I was working at a startup and I was working 14 hours a day. I was super burned out, and I. My health wasn't doing very well. I had a lot of gut issues at that time, and I was so tired. And it was interesting because although I was getting money and getting recognized at work, I wasn't really happy inside. And I just thought that that was what I was meant to do. So I hadn't really questioned it. But I did start to think to myself, something doesn't feel right.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    And at that time, coincidentally, or it's a spiritual synchronicity, I met a mentor who was really powerful for me, and she helped me understand how everything in my life at the time was, like, entrapping me and basically suffusing my spirit. The one thing I did have was I had just started my YouTube channel with my tarot readings, and that was going really well, and that felt really bright and joyful. So I started focusing more of my attention on that. And then I worked with the mentor and did a lot of deep healing, and I started to really rewire those old, unhelpful beliefs.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    That's an interesting crossover, basically, which you came through, because, in fact, we all have our individual stories here about all these stories. They have these, like, what happened here? And then there was some enlightenment, like a blitz. There is the tower Tower card. Right?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yes.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    We actually come to the point. Come to the point that, hey, this blitz happened. We need to do something around it, you know, so our whole life is crashing, and I have so many clients who are saying to me, you know, I'm afraid of this tower. But I say, hey, it is an amazing card. It's just something that enlightenment is coming to your life.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    It is, yes. It's. In some ways, it's one of the best cards, even though a lot of people don't like to see it, but it always leads to the highest spiritual ascension, and it always leads to a. A change that is needed. So, yeah, that was my tower moment. I was super burned out and wasn't really listening to myself and what my soul wanted, and then I had no choice but to change.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So it's basically all shapes burned down.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Everything. Everything burned down. I left the relationship I was in at the time. I moved across the country, I left my job. I. Everything changed. It was a true tower moment. In every aspect of my life.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I see the patterns. I see the patterns which you are going through with many whom I'm interviewed already and with the patterns of my life, honestly. And I can tell you, even if we have those different stories, but the patterns are the same. The life starts crumbling, literally crumbling, and we are so afraid of it. But the interesting thing is that after these cards, the star follows.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yes, exactly.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    And that is a really, really cool thing about this rage.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah. It's so true. It's true. The tarot is a beautiful journey, and it's really just having the faith to take the next step, even though it's so scary. But you don't want to stay in the tower forever either. That is also a mistake.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Correct. Because even if channel is coming after that, you need to hold yourself not to get craziness mode so that you would not get backwards to that devil.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Right, Right. Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Before the tower, there is this guy sitting there torturing everyone.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, right. Yeah. You don't want to be in the energy of entrapment for so long.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes. Yes. So it's actually. I've been contemplating about it that the easiest way to even learn the major arcana, by the way, is when we take the pathway over the fool and we split it into his road of 22 cards into those small roads, and the road which starts from the star, which is following these cards, then this road actually is all about enlightenment, if we see it. So one by one, how we go through that process is just showing us how we actually get reunited back to our cosmos, to where we came from. Right. Just like. Yeah, yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    If we're speaking about this, what is your card today? You think in that enlightenment pathway, like.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    What card am I in currently?

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes, because in that pathway, the cards are just let me remind you, it's the star, the moon, the sun, and then judgment and the world.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, yeah. The journey from the start to the world is a fantastic journey. I believe that I am in judgment right now.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Why is that?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    So I think that I'm at a point in my life where I have been fulfilling my purpose and my mission, and now there's like a even higher calling which is starting to move through me. So that's a little bit of space between judgment and the world. Like, not everything is complete yet. I haven't figured everything out in the spiritual sense, but it feels like there's a destiny element to where I am right now. And the funny thing is, I don't know all the answers about how my life will continue to transform, but I feel I've had the star and I've had the moon and I've also had the sun too. So, yeah, I think I'm around there.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Oh, that's very interesting that you mentioned it because in fact, judgment has two aspects in it. And this positive aspect, it's even called, like, one of the keywords is enlightenment. So it's kind of like that enlightenment. Right. So illuminated consciousness here because it's. It's just so amazing what we as humans can do here. Once we illuminate all this stuff here, once we literally get back to the basics. Because, you know, I started doing some kind of practices as well, and I realized I cannot really 100%, and I don't want to illuminate all about my physical body.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Once I started doing it with my meditations and I'm meditating currently two, three hours per day, I realized that once I go deeper into that practice, like illuminating all from in here back to hair, the body starts hurting. It's crumbling like crazy. I don't know. Do you have something similar in your practices if you ever experienced it? Because I just like feel like, oh, I would better not go there. I would better not mess up with this. Settle. I don't know. Sometimes I share it and I would love to hear if you ever went through something like this.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Being, being like, you know, we always like, I want to more, more, more. And I wanted more to be conscious, like about my body, how processes are happening there. And it's like, Yulia, you better stop here. There is a reason, I'm not conscious.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    About many things right there. It's true. There's always divine timing. And I think that this happens when we're receiving so much energy, especially in deep meditation, that one, we become more conscious of what's happening within us. But two, we're also pulling a lot of energy into our body. And sometimes I think of it like a light bulb that bursts. And there's a certain level of, like, energetic capacity that we have. And if we blow ourselves out, we have to be very careful about that too.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    But I have the same sensation because I just, like, started already. Oh, God. I just like instilling me, just write codes. I don't. I don't freaking know anything. I. I'm just giving myself all to you, to your guidance. Just instill the right codes to me, just the right for this, because I freaking don't know anything about this.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    And that code, which we have all in American society here, more, more, more is not always better. It's not always better.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Definitely not. That's definitely true. Especially when it comes to energy. You know, before, I was referring to some very advanced spiritual techniques that I had to learn. The reason that they're very advanced and I don't share those ones is because when people use them, they can blow out their system. It's too much energy at once. Their system doesn't have capacity. It actually has a reverse effect than what we're looking for, which is to heal.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    So, yes. I mean, this is not to make anyone afraid of meditating, because meditating is a beautiful practice. But yes, I think it's. It's just there is a certain amount of attunement required. And as you build up to it, your body can take more energy, but it takes time.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    There is a card which is called temperance. We look at the temperance, right? And what. What do we see in the here? So how he's standing, it's like the descended angel, in fact. But he's like pouring the water, pouring Sagittarius, by the way. So the water from one chalice to another, but not even one single drop is crossing the line here is not in here. It's just all about that balance. How he's standing with one foot, right? How even is this? Stone after stone, this pile is presented here. I mean, like, it's all about finding that balance, right?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    So absolutely.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    We would not just burn ourselves down to ashes, right?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yes. Sometimes our human mind, or our egoic mind will want to go so fast. We have that want for instant gratification. But it's not always what's best for us.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes, yes. So how did you get to that understanding? That actually instant gratification and more, more, more is not always good? Because this is basically what I see. We are all victims of that wiring on some level. So we were instilled with this, with all the society constraints here, with all the, like, debris here. Like, it's like one very thick matrix about these beliefs starting from very early ages. So I see many are going to that understanding. What was your story around it?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah. The truth is, I look at my life and I don't think I've had much instant gratification other than ordering my packages on Amazon. Everything that I've had.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    That's the devil.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    It is. It is. It's true. True. Everything I've had to do has required a lot of effort. And I actually think it's some past life energy still moving through me that it's required a lot of intention, a lot of effort. But the good thing about this is that it has paced me so I never got anything really fast. I had to work really, really hard.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    But it was almost like spirit was slowing me down. And I started to see beauty in the process instead of just the outcome, because I had no other choice. And my perspective on this is if you can learn to just appreciate the process and the present moment, you actually inherit more gifts and more of a connection to spirit.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Speaking about Amazon, it's just like a big gift from another perspective, because today, if we look at it, Amazon made it possible for us to receive everything so easily. We could not even imagine, in fact, like, what is possible today. So it's all having these two sides, and it depends on how we look at it. Again, Temperance, because some people may say, hey, I will not buy from Amazon, or I will not use AI but all these have gifts in it. From another perspective, Again, Temperance. Right. So we come back to the same thing.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    It's the integration. Same with medicine. You know, using Eastern and Western medicine or integrating. It's like the yin and the yang, I think there's a lot of healthy energy and balance.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes, yes. So literally honoring and nurturing all what we have today. Just feel like we as humanity, we come back to that nurturing aspect in us, but we really need to come back through not hiding the eyes, like closing the eyes from the technology and all the goodies which we have already today, but together with it, but in a much more conscious way. You elaborate as well. Just your vision on that.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah. I think it's a fascinating topic. I think AI is allowing us to receive information very quickly, which has a lot of benefits, so we can be more progressive in some ways. I also perceive that this will allow us to contact other beings from other planets, and that this is the reason why it's been brought to Earth in such a fast way that eventually there will be some kind of interdimensional communication which is not just channeling, but is also technological. So in that respect, I think it's good. And then I think the other thing is that people do still need to seek what is real and that nothing can really replace human connection. It's the both.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes. And Covid actually showed it so brilliantly. Well, because do you see, like, how everyone were so thirsty for that real connection and we can see how people appreciate it actually today.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    It's true. It's true. And we had to learn that lesson as a collective, and it was very hard to learn. But now that we know the value of human connection, I feel we do appreciate it much more.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes. And this power of appreciation brings us back to that abundance flow. I know that you actually are teaching that abundance flow. We talked about it a bit before. So could you maybe tell us all here, what are the main principles, in fact, of abundance flow? Because that is like, I feel deep inside that when you get to that more spiritual aspect of you, this must happen naturally, right? But when we are on the pathway, when we start opening up, like in that cocoon, right, like chrysalis, when the, the, how to say, the caterpillar gets to the butterfly, there is this cocoon, like chaos there in between. So we are in that cocoon or chrysalis, like they call it chrysalis on scientific terms. So when we are in that thing, chaotic thing, we may not experience still abundance. And we just like, hey, I'm on the pathway, but I don't understand.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I'm a good being, why there is still no abundance. I know one thing still that when we are like when everything. And you mentioned somehow it happened in your story, you mentioned somehow. But it's not just synchronicity, it's mathematically exact. So my question to you, what are those formulas for abundance? Because I know that you figured them out. So maybe some principles, you know, which you can list here for all of us so that we could follow maybe a step by step and just, hey, I am spiritual and I want to be there. If I do that, my situation will get.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, great question. The first thing that comes to mind is just the concept of being open. So there's a theory that there's a lot of abundant energy being sent to us all the time, but some of us have more resistance to that flow than others. So, like, we were talking about becoming aware of where you might have some resistance and just trying to open a little bit more. And my perspective is if you're trying to do everything by yourself, then that's not going to be the best way to go about life. So asking for help from other people, but also from spirit is just a very helpful thing to start practicing daily. Before I write anything, before I post on social media, before I work with a client, I for one second I just say, spirit, please be with me, please move through me. And that energy is felt and that creates more abundance.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    So even if you're not a channeler, it's just inviting a higher level of energy in so that you're not using all of your own personal energy for everything that you're coming across. Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Okay. So that's principle number one. Is there something else?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    There's. There's always more. There's so much. You know, I think abundance mindset is also shifting to this perspective of good things are happening for me all the time. There's good things happening that I might not be able to see right now.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    They on the go?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, yeah. Or they're coming. They're. They're on the way. So, yes, it's being grateful, you know, maybe writing in a gratitude journal every day. These are very simple practices. But what it's doing is it's sending a signal out to the universe of I deserve good things, I am worthy of good things, I expect good things. And that does attract it to your energy field like a magnet.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So that too, I actually noticed I started doing in my YouTube channel as well for my clients. They asked me about it, actually. These card readings, one card readings with that empowering perspectives, just like the message which can lift them up. And I just like, okay, it's just like, I will do it for you. And then I noticed even like privately when I work with people, if you just try to lift them up, it's not about fortune telling. All this thing you kind of like can mode like module your future, like you can model the future to what you want to invest through that varnance flow.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    It's true. It's true. And that's why I like to describe it as multiple timelines. I believe there are multiple parallel possibilities that can happen for us. And so I work with spirit so that we can get onto what I call the highest timeline the one that's most in alignment and most purposeful.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    That word as alignment is really powerful. I keep hearing it from many today, and it has that tremendously beautiful frequency in it. When we even spell it, like alignment, it's like a spell, literally, when you say that. And it's just, you know, how I feel like all my limbs are just like opening up to these cosmos, you know, And I. I'm doing yoga, actually. Ashtanga yoga. And I noticed how every asana, like literally every asana, it's that alignment. It's not a physical set of exercises.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I. I think you can relate to that. And.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    And then you're like really? That antenna which transfers certain alignment with cosmos. But I figured it. I figured why? Because I use my hands very actively there and I use my feet. It's just like working for me. So. And I. I just talked about it to my husband and I encouraged him to do the same. Like, paying attention to the hands, it's just like opening up like that flower.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So you can do so much stuff with your limbs. Connecting to these universe. And we are naturally good in that. With that dancing. Right? I just.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yes.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Gosh. Gosh. That's what's happening here.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    It's true. Yeah. And the. The beautiful thing is your hands move energy. They invite energy in. They can also push it out. You know, the hands are very purposeful and how we use them. Yeah, it can create a block or it can create a flow of abundance.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    So. Yeah. And it's similar to the Kundalini energy as well. You know, often that's kind of what we're channeling when we're in that flow.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    All these mantras, all these kind of like mudra stuff, it's. It's so interconnected with that. And when I was in India as well. Have you been there in India?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah. So you probably were in certain ashrams and were just like indulging into that experience. Right. So do you remember how they use all the time either some kind of ecstatic dancing? So we. We call it ecstatic dance in the west, but they call it some trans dance or connection to.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. It certainly works. Yeah, absolutely. And it's funny. I even dance. I think of it kind of like shamanic dancing. Like I give gratitude to the earth, you know, the sun, the sky, all of the above. But similar practice to connect to spirit and mother nature, and it really works.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So when have you been introduced to these shamanic practices?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yes, I started studying power animals about four years ago and doing shamanic journeys first, just through a. Yeah, I love it. It's great. First, I just read this book, it was called the Beginner's Guide to Shamanic Journeying. And I practiced it like religiously. And it was beautiful because I got so many messages from my power animal and my helping spirits, as we call them, that I couldn't have gotten in my normal 3D life. And I'm going to do a shamanic training now in Peru in 2025.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So you, with your people, you will do the shamanic training, you will be leading the course?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    No, I'm actually learning from the shamans, like the ancient shamans in Peru. So they don't speak English, they live in the mountains. So I want to really. Yeah, I want to really go to the root and learn the original. So I'm really looking forward to that. But yeah, but I've been doing some shamanic healing. Some came to me intuitively, honestly, like, it's like kind of like light language and so I use it in my healing and I noticed the difference. But that was of course, because my channel was open.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I love it because I'm just coming myself from Siberia initially and this is a really strong shamanic based land, you know, so it's so, so connected to me when you just talk about it. And the only land where I sounds like home, honestly, was in Peru when it's just like, yeah, I just felt it. And she's a. Gosh. Peru and Siberia, it's so. The vibrations, they are so beautiful there. And both lands are not easy to live in. Honestly, it's just like, it's not easy to be there physically, but it's just tremendous power in those two lands.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    And I would still remember how I was surrounded by shamans in my childhood and they could really say already, who? You, you can be your potential, but they never limited you with that. But they could just say to you, they sort it and then what? Like the, the people, my family even, we never used medications. It was not supposed to be like that conventional medicine. We always used some kind of medicine from Mother Nature. And I don't really spread too much about this. There is crazy stuff there, what we were doing, I mean, from perspective, which kind of stuff. Because animals are really pure and plants are so pure and we can restore. There is a reason why shamans are working with animals and plants so much.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Because we, plants will restore literally our whole. This thing, our etheric body, which is mainly reflected in that body hair. Right. So, yeah, but with the animal, animal energy, you can restore Your astral body and anything around your nervous, degenerative, nervous things, meaning that they are so pure. Just presence of it being in. Around them. Like, we started doing horse riding with my husband.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Did you touch horses?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, totally. Yeah. I just wanted to write them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Perfect. So you can relate to that.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, of course. They're so powerful. They're so conscious.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So pure. Right?

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    You know what fascinated me? When I figured out that the eyes of horses have much more blood than our eyes. It's just like.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Really?

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah, it's just like, gosh, there is something in that. And then look how we as women, we are so connected to blood. It's just like we talk much here about nerves. Nerves. But I was just like. I'm thinking there is so much around blood.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, well, yeah, it's our life force, you know, it's. It's a very powerful part of us, and there's so much to say about that. You know, when I was working with my mentor, she did lead us through a lot of, like, womb ceremonies, yoni, steaming, like, those types of practices. I haven't carried it forth as much as I could have. So there is another area for me to explore, but certainly in my network of healers, I know a lot of people that are very intimate working with their blood and also do, like, red tent ceremonies.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Interesting, interesting.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, that's quite common here in San Diego. Yeah. Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    That's quite empowering. Hopefully it starts the discern, discerning, like your, you know, right direction, because there may be lots of creepy stuff as well happening there.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah, always. Yeah, you have to use discernment always. It's true in every industry. You know, I've seen there's. There's purity and there's also some questionable stuff going on, but. Yeah, but you. My core network of healers out here is so beautiful. I'm so grateful for them because they truly changed my life.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So since you started that pathway of channeler. Right. And a life coach, I wouldn't want just to get that confirmation, in fact, from you. Did you ever have any thought coming back.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Like, of returning to my former life? Yeah, of course. So many times. But this was always coming from my ego, and it was always about money and scarcity and maybe even reputation. And it was going back to those old thought patterns because I was raised in this kind of strict way where I was just expected to be very corporate. So the fact that I left my corporate job altogether was a huge leap for me. It required working through a Lot of fear. And I really had to use my spiritual resources and faith in order to get through that. But you know what I noticed is spirit won't let you go back if you're not meant to go back.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    So, yeah, of course, there were times in the past where I applied to corporate jobs and things like that, but I never got any of them. I never even interviewed, because spirit was like, nope, you're meant to keep doing this work. And that only, you know, that was only maybe two times. But every time that I've just kept leaning in and trusting and having faith and going within and connecting deeper, then my life has transformed in miraculous ways. And so it really just comes down to, is it fear that you're choosing or love? And at this point, after years of. Of surrendering, I just know I have to choose. Love. That's my only option, and that's the one that's truly in alignment.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I love it. I love it. It's so much going in alignment with everything what was said by many whom I interviewed before. So much going in alignment with my life. Honestly, it means only one thing. If you receive the same patterns again and again from people who were never connected before to each other, it means only one thing. There is truth around it.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Absolutely, yeah. Absolutely, yeah. We're working in this amazing collective consciousness, and so we do see these patterns, and it's just fascinating. But our world is evolving, and that's really nice to see.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes. There is so much light coming, in fact. So there is hope for absolutely every one of us. There is absolutely lots of hope.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    I agree. I agree. And I feel it, and I feel it daily, and that's just so beautiful.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So if we summarize in three words, let's say which kind of advice you would give to absolutely everyone who is listening to us right now. So that you. You just feel it's the right one. It's just the right one.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Yeah. I mean, the three words I would say are trust, faith, and integrity. And I believe that if you just really build your life and you guide yourself around those three things, Trust, faith, integrity, then you can never go wrong, whether it be choosing your mentor, your teacher, or just trusting yourself.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I absolutely love it. Thank you so much, Gabriella. It was such an amazing talk. I wish I could talk with you for Raiders. Unfortunately, our time here is limited, like everything in this matrix. But, guys, everyone who listened to it, you will have it in your recording. You will have all the links about this wonderful lady, and I hope that we will meet each other again. Thank you, Gabriella.

    Gabriella Alziari:
    Thank you. Thank you so.

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