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    Meet the Tarot Expert Who Can Unlock Your Hidden Potential: Featuring Miriam Rachel!

    Meet the Tarot Expert Who Can Unlock Your Hidden Potential: Featuring Miriam Rachel!

    Join Yulia as she welcomes Miriam Rachel, a renowned Tarot reader, certified astrologer to explore the transformative power of Tarot and astrology. In this episode, Miriam shares her journey into the world of Tarot, offers insights on how Tarot can stimulate creativity, and provides practical advice for using Tarot to navigate mental health challenges. Discover how Tarot can unlock your hidden potential, sharpen your intuition, and help you live authentically.

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    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Hello, beautiful souls. So here I am today, Julia Jochast, and I'm inviting to our beautiful show, Miriam. She is the tarot reader and the certified astrologer, and she's the one who is spilling the truth into the spirituality world. So, Miriam, welcome to the show.

    Miriam:
    Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So, Miriam, could you please tell us a bit more about yourself, because I just blurbed a bit about you, but I'm pretty sure you can introduce yourself so much better.

    Miriam:
    Yeah. Okay.

    Miriam:
    Well, you know what? I guess you could say I'm the jill of all trades because not only do I do astrology and tarot readings, I'm also a psychic medium. But I'm also a freelance writer. So that's basically what I do. And how did I get into all that? Oh, my goodness. Well, you know, I've always had a writing bug, I guess you can say since I was nine years old I was into creative writing. And I know I was a writer in some previous lives, but we could talk about that another time if you want. But anyway, ever since I was nine, I was really getting into creative writing. I even entered a writing contest at school.

    Miriam:
    I believe it was grade four, I think it was. And yeah, I was, I did enter in, and I was accepted in, into it, but I didn't win. But hey, that's okay. I had the talent. I used to do a lot of writing when I was a teenager, and I used to even think about becoming a writer, but then I sort of swayed away from that and didn't know what I really wanted. So anyway, fast forward to after I had my daughter. She's 22 now. After I had her, I started getting into tarot.

    Miriam:
    And I was starting to get into astrology because I also knew I had this intuitive gift. But it didn't really, I didn't really get into it until after I had her. And then I just started to delve into it more and more and more. Now, there were some major, major, major challenges I had after that point that kind of got me out of it. But anyway, I'll just say that within the last, in the last six or seven years, I just started diving right back into it. And I haven't stopped, and I don't foresee myself ever stopping until it's my time.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So, yeah, it's the same here as well on my end. Once I started, I remember ten years ago, these are practice. And I just remember how I went into the metaphysical shop and I just got like, mesmerized by the card, the empress. And I don't know why, I just felt so good just by looking at it, only later to figure out that all these codes, these occult based codes, they are actually so healing if you start really unraveling them. Right? So I wanted to ask you what is really tarot for you? Because just like I always ask these questions, especially from the really professional tarot readers who are into this practice for a long time. What is that for you?

    Miriam:
    Well, I will tell you right now, I do not consider it as woo woo. I don't, because, and I'll tell you why. It actually stimulates your brain, it stimulates your mind, it stimulates your creativity. And I just, um, I did sort of a very soft launch a writing program where I am going to be doing challenges for students that are bloggers that run into writer's block that can't figure out what to write about how, and teaching them how they can use tarot to become, just to become a fountain of creativity. Because there is never a reason to deal with writer's block once you start getting to know the tarot, you can develop topics for months and months and months. Right? So that's the thing.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    You must be a storyteller.

    Miriam:
    Yeah. Storytelling. Absolutely. There are a lot of tarot readers that go. That do this kind of work, but in my case, it's more bloggers, content creators. See, I'm actually not really the fiction type, even though I used to when I started writing when I was a kid. I know I was into creative writing and all that, but I write nonfiction, but I use, obviously, my creative angle for it. Right.

    Miriam:
    So that's basically what I do. But for tarot, it makes you use your brain, it makes you use your creativity. It helps you sharpen your intuition. It's not some magical woo woo thing where so many people think, and I blame the media for that, for making, making tarot appear like that. I know there was just a movie about it that just came out. I really had no interest. Oh, my gosh.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    It is so just. It's so scary. Scary whole movement against Tarot, honestly.

    Miriam:
    I know, I know. And that's the thing, too. I mean, unfortunately, media has made people associate evil with tarot, which could be further from the truth.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah, yeah. It's like every time when something is having such type of heavy push in the media, which is like the negative push, I always doubt it, honestly. I'm just like, wait, I need to look at it in a bit different maybe angle. You know? I remember how I was mesmerized by the idea, which struck me. Don't know where I read it from, but Jesus, basically, he had twelve disciples, so. And then I don't remember where I read it, honestly. But the idea was, it's like, also in our watch, right, in our timing here, we have, like 24 hours, but 24 divided by 212, right? So. And the idea was, hey, look at every situation from twelve different perspectives, at least to have that round circle.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I promise you, if you are blaming someone or having negative opinion towards something or someone on the third perspective, you will already recharge yourself.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Right.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    It's just so, so magical. And this is, by the way, an interesting, really cool technique, especially for those who have ADHD, anxiety or OCD or this type of crap, right? When we don't know what to do with this thing and nobody can help us. So, speaking about the mental stuff, I know that you wrote, by the way, an interesting book, and it just dives into the reasons, the core reasons of all these core mental problems which we experience here today. Could you please talk?

    Miriam:
    Absolutely. And here's. So before I get into that. I just want to say that a lot of therapists do use tarot to help help with their clients or whatever, do shadow work. Now, I want to make it crystal clear that I am not a therapist or anything. Okay. So I used to struggle with extreme people pleasing. I wrote all about that.

    Miriam:
    I wrote about how I ended up that way and how I broke out of it, which was nothing by the tarot, by the way. This is just something that I discovered after. But, yes, I went through a major tower moment. You can say that got me out of it. Okay, so that's the thing. And I actually did a little bit of digging in a few years ago about this was during the pandemic, how maybe there's some other areas where I might be still a little bit weak as far as the boundaries go. Right? As far as boundary setting goes. So I figured, you know what? Let's use tarot to maybe dig into this.

    Miriam:
    And I did, and I'm like, you know what? This is great. You can use tarot to self reflect. That's another thing that you can do with tarot, is it helps you self reflect. So struggling with people pleasing is definitely one. One way, or, you know, tarot can help you understand why you struggle with it. But again, you would have to, if you have a lot of trauma that is behind it, like, in my case, it was, you definitely have to work with a therapist. You got to work with a professional, because you don't. Do not want to inadvertently make things worse.

    Miriam:You know, that's the thing.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yes.

    Miriam:
    Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I fully agree with that. They were a feedback, but I don't know if you're aware of it. But they don't say that when you have really struggles with anxiety, lots of anxiety, it may make it even worse.

    Miriam::
    Yeah. Absolutely.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Oh, Yeah. It's just like. And then people do this stuff, and they don't understand why it's getting worse. I, for example, did neurofeedback myself. My anxiety levels were extreme, so I got shut down, actually, for a while. It took me a while just to come back to life.

    Miriam:
    Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, honestly, if you're. If you have a lot of anxiety, if you have a lot of trauma that you need help with, I highly recommend you go find a good therapist that can help you. You don't want to just start using tarot on your own. You have to figure out if this is the way to go, because in some cases, it may not be. I mean, that's just. You don't want to make something worse.

    Miriam:
    But if you're open to it and you're like, okay, I want to really explore this more, and I'm open to the tarot, then, by all means. But I'd say you work with a therapist first. So. Yeah. So my book, overcoming Echoism with tarot, is basically about. I talk about what echoism is, which is an extreme form of people pleasing. It is actually the polar opposite of NPD. Like, classic narcissism.

    Miriam:
    Right? So echoism is not a medical term. I learned about echoism through a therapist and author, Doctor Craig Malkin, his name is. And I, after learning about them, like, oh, my goodness. That was me. That absolutely was me. That fit me to a t. So what echoists are, they're extreme people pleasers, but they also. They sacrifice themselves.

    Miriam:
    They have no sense of self, because a pathological narcissist is all about what they want, and they have no impact.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    This echoists, I think it reminds and I think it's speaking to the hearts of many women here. On some parts of our lives, we actually give it all to those whom we love. And I don't know, we all kind of meet that type of guy here and there, or maybe someone whom we just serve naturally, but then we lose. We literally lose ourselves in that. You're not alone in that. I think I actually. Yeah, actually here experience this type. I just wanted to encourage here you a bit as well.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So she's, like, experienced it also?

    Miriam:
    Yeah, for sure. I mean, this is the thing that's also. I wrote the why I wrote the book because I know I'm not alone. I know there's so many people that struggle with it. So I talk about what ecoism is, and I also go over each of the 78 tarot cards and talk about, you know, I talk about what the cards mean, just in general, but then I talk about what each. How each card can relate to struggles with people pleasing, whether it has to do with recovery or just struggling. And then I just go over a couple of spreads, and I talk about just one card pulls or even, like, whether it's in the morning or the evening. I also recommend that if you have anxiety, I don't think pulling a card each morning is a good idea, and I'm going to tell you why.

    Miriam:
    Because what if you pull the three of swords or the ten of swords or the tower? Then you're going to spiral, and you're gonna say, oh, no. What's gonna go wrong? What's gonna go wrong? Is someone gonna hurt me?

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Well, in this case, you need to have the empowering deck.

    Miriam:
    Yes, yes. Yep. Absolutely. And I've got mine, too. Yeah. It's a beautiful deck. But what I would recommend, if you are open to this and you're ready to do this and you're working with someone, I personally think it's better to do an evening pull to reflect on your day, because this way, you're in a different mind frame. You can reflect on the day.

    Miriam:
    This way, if you pulled the tower, even though it wasn't a bad day, you can think about, okay, what was it within me that needed to fall apart so I could let it go, so I could develop something better or what kind of. See, the tower also represents revelations. It doesn't have to be sudden destruction.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So I love the tower, personally, every time when they have the pull of tower. Oh, my God, the release is nia. Yeah.

    Miriam:
    So, you know, what kind of revelation did I have? Kind of thing. So you're in a different mind frame when it's. When you're doing a nighttime pull. Also, if you've had a really bad day and you pull the sun or the nine of cups, you can think, okay, this was a crappy day, but what silver linings were there? Now, I want to be careful with that, too, because some days you just can't find any. And I completely understand that maybe the fact that maybe you had some support, that could be it, you know, kind of thing depends on what kind of day you had. Right. But, yeah, I mean, this is the thing. You can find.

    Miriam:
    You can find something if you do a nightly pull, like, while you reflect on it. So this way you don't have the anxiety of what could go wrong kind of thing. So that's, you know, that's. Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So tell me one thing. Basically, I understand that you really started your journey, kind of interwoven it in your tarot cards with helping people with different types of mental. Mental balancing. Do you have some special techniques around it? Maybe certain spreads or just very simple ones which you could share with our current audience, which could help them to, let's say, rebalance them in the end or just like, put them in the balance in the beginning of the day.

    Miriam:
    Yeah. Well, you know what? I think one really good one is a three card mind body spirit spread. This way you can understand what's going on with your mind and your body and your spirit. So this way you can get a. I guess you can get a snapshot of what's really happening within and seeing where you're at. Right. So I like that one that's simple and it's generic because anybody who, you know, may be working with a therapist, but wants to use tarot to, you know, do some shadow work and all that. I do think that's a really good, simple spread to go with.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Actually, the simpler the better. Whenever you have anxiety because you feel so much overwhelmed.

    Miriam:
    Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Just like when I was in that state. And some of my clients, they actually say, julia, I don't need more information. I won't.

    Miriam:
    Yeah, yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Please stop it.

    Miriam:
    Yes. Yeah, yeah. Definitely, definitely. So I think that's a really simple one. And I think even like a night, the nightly pull is just as good, too.

    Miriam:
    For that, I don't recommend the morning for, you know why? The reason I said before, you could pull a card that can trigger fear, you know, and that's the last thing you need to plague your day, because you're just waiting for the next shoe to drop kind of thing. Right.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So do you have some techniques, let's say, when these fear starts crawling, you know, you pulled that wrong card and shut it down.

    Miriam:
    Yeah. Now that's. That's the thing, though. That's why I don't think it's a good idea to pull in the morning. I just. I just don't recommend it if you are struggling with a lot of mental health issues. And I think also, though, you need to just reframe your mind, and that's going to take a lot of work, especially if you have anxiety. You have to think, oh, my goodness.

    Miriam:
    Here's the thing. Just because I pull the tower doesn't mean something's going to necessarily go wrong. Just because. Just because I pulled, say, the three of swords doesn't mean that someone's going to break my heart or betray me kind of thing. Right. I think you have to look at it as not a prediction. It's not a predictor. The tarot is not there to predict the future.

    Miriam:
    And I think that is what scares people. And that's also. I also blame the media for that, too. You can't predict the future. You just can't. You can. So the most you can do, as far as that goes, is just. Here's 1 second.

    Miriam:
    Yeah. So the most you can do as far as predicting the future is where my clients come to me and say, all right, I have a really difficult decision to make. What do I do? Should I go on go to path a or path b? So, yeah, I can definitely look and see what the most likely outcome is for both. So if the. If path a doesn't look great, let's take a look at path b. If it looks better, then my intuitive advice is to go with that. But again, you are the master of yourself. I just am there to give you intuitive guidance.

    Miriam:
    I can't. Don't take what I say is the gospel either. Nothing is ever set in stone. So that's the most that the tarot can do as far as predicting the future.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah. Plus, I fully agree with that, because those who claim that they can predict it all in some sense, they are putting and laying down their energy into that and their lands. And on some level, it is actually a scene if we look at it from the perspective of a soul to kind of dictate the future for that soul, because we are not gods. And the whole thing is kind of like, to help that soul who comes to us. It's just such a responsibility. And it looks at you like this, like you are guarding that, like predicting this. But you as a teacher, you just. There is a code, by the way, code of ethics of a tarot reader.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So you kind of, like, want to guide that person to become its own guru so that it would take that decision on its own and not be going into that stream of predictions, because you kind of, like, take part of the soul and part of the karma. By the way, not many are talking about this part of the karma of that person unto you because you made a scene. That's. That's whole thing about this. And it's just like, when I realized that, I was just like, gosh, it's all I can do here. Even if the person asks for that prediction, I can just clarify the way. It's just on that level. Because, listen, like, if we come here, did God show us everything like this, or we always see what's the next right step to do.

    Miriam:
    Oh, I 100% agree. And my other thing that I believe, too, is that if you're meant to know something, spirit will reveal it. If you're not meant to know something, spirit will not, will not reveal it.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    You can communicate with the spirit because you mentioned that you're also psychic medium.

    Miriam:
    Psychic medium. Yeah. So I've actually been. I wasn't really doing much mediumship before 2022. I started taking some classes, and I do. I do go on. I do go to circles every Monday. There's a.

    Miriam:
    There's a mediumship circle that's hosted by this. This psychic medium who actually did mentor me as well. Her name is Stacey Brickell. She's great. And she hosts. It's free. There's a lot of psychics or mediumship circles? Psychic circles.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Is it online or. It's here in Toronto?

    Miriam:
    No, no, it's online. It's online, yeah. It's called we connect together. It's a Facebook group. If you go on there, if you join it, you'll see it. So it's. Although this. This.

    Miriam:
    Because today she wasn't. She's not in town right now, but next, most Mondays, she hosts this right from one to 2:30, so. Yep. So that's a really good circle. That's a really good way to hone your mediumship skills. Right. But, you know, there's also a lot of classes, so, I mean, since 2022, I've been honing those skills, and I don't feel like it's my path to do psychic medium or just mediumship readings by itself. If I do a psychic reading and if a spirit guide or someone's loved one comes in, then I will.

    Miriam:
    I will know and I'll tell them. I also ask the client, do you want mediumship with this reading? Because if you don't, I won't do it. But most of the time, they say, yes. I would love to know who comes.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah. There is a rising wave for that. People are very, very open for all these metaphysical stuff, which is beyond physical. And I just was on the meta expert event here, and I've seen so many people who just want the combination of tarot with some kind of integrated healing sessions. So I, for example, was doing lots of tarot readings together with the integrated healing with them, because I'm coming from the land of shamans from Siberia initially, and there I had that gift from kind of like, those guys who were around me all the time, and they were saying to me, you have the gift of healing. But I never could understand it. And then, like, later on, I started developing these, and just because I was surrounded by that, I figured out, like, through remembrance, lots of things. So that's the so called integrated energy healing.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    And then they are mesmerized when you do it together with the tarot and together with these, kind of, like, bonding them with the right questions. Many times it ends with just one tarot card reading. One card. And that is the best reading ever. When you know which question to ask before the preparatory session, actually, all this is done, and then it's the best ever. You see how they are kind of, like, becoming so clear about what to do next, and their eyes are. And that's. That's the whole thing.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Instead of all these complex spreads, by the way, many come to Tara world. And they say, oh, Yulia, it's so complex, which is like, do you want complexity or you want the truth? Right?

    Miriam:
    Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's true. Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah. So speaking about astrology, I'm just wondering, you are in astrology world as well, which astrology you are doing?

    Miriam:
    I, yeah, just western. So here's the thing about astrology. Now, I know there's so many types, but I just stick with western. And I also, I used to do a lot of past life astrology, but I'm feeling called to really get into it again. And I'm going to wait till September because mercury is in retrograde right now. So it's not really a good idea to launch anything, but it's good to plan. It's a good time to plan. And.

    Miriam:
    Yeah. So past life astrology is something else. So there's a system that I use for past life astrology where I can see who you were, where you lived, what kind of person you were, and if you really want to know how.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    You passed, you know, what's the name of that system?

    Miriam:
    Well, it's my own. So here's the thing. You see, the 12th house is all about there's past life, but your past self, just basically who you are doesn't mean that was your sun sign or ascendant or anything, is basically your, you know, ascendant or first house and your previous life, and then you just go back house. So your first house in this life, it represents what your second house in that life was. Right? So say, for instance, if you've got Saturn in your first house, my daughter does, actually, and it doesn't matter what the rising sign is so much, but it means that you likely were you struggled with, with money. You struggled with money in your previous life, or you also had very little self worth or you struggled with that kind of thing. That's the kind of thing. It's.

    Miriam:
    So your 7th house in this, you know, in your chart shows the way I see it, because I'm clairvoyant too. So I can basically see what was going on. Your 7th house, your 7th house cusp as well as the planets in there, if there are any, shows, basically how you passed in your previous life. So say if you got Gemini on your 7th house, then you likely, you may have been young because that can represent youth depending on what planets, mercury, the ruler is, you know, the aspects. Right. But the thing is, is that you may have also passed away from a respiratory illness, which was very common back in the old days, right. Also, your third house shows where you likely were from or live for. It depends on how many plans or if you have any other plans, probably.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    This will invoke lots of interest right now.

    Miriam:
    Yeah. So, yeah, so say if you have cancer. Say if you have cancer on your third house cusp, like now, you probably lived in a country ruled by cancer. My intuition and clairvoyance would be able to guide me. So, cancer, I believe, rules Holland as an example. Right. So, Holland, you may have lived in Holland. And it's funny because my daughter has cancer on the third house cusp, and I know she was from.

    Miriam:
    I know she was from Holland. And she even said to me, she says, I really want to see it. I'm just so curious about it. So.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, that's really. Did you write any book about this?

    Miriam:
    A long time ago? I did. I'm actually thinking about writing something else. I'm not really. Really marketing that because I'm in a totally different mind frame. It was more about. I wrote about, like, holocaust victims talking about their past lives, and I'm not really wanting to talk about that. I actually don't. I'm not.

    Miriam:
    It's not on the market anymore. But I am thinking about putting something else out that will reveal more of my system. So it's just, you know, there's.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I'm pretty sure this system will be of interest for many.

    Miriam:
    Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Not so long ago, I went to chapters here in Newmarket, where I'm living, and I just realized that there are so many different astrological systems. And what you are talking about, it's really interesting. I think it could just take that beautiful part in that chapters. Bookshelf.

    Miriam:
    Yeah, for sure. Yeah, definitely. And, yeah, I mean, like I said, it's just. Just. There's not enough time. There's not enough hours in the day for me to do all this. There's just so much I'm doing. And that is something that I definitely do want to do.

    Miriam:
    I want to start putting out TikTok videos as well. I'm a little bit hesitant with TikTok because I have no idea if it's going to be banned in the US. And the thing is, you've got a huge base in the US, so. Because if it's banned in the US and it's not really going to be useful, but I just. I have a hard time believing that's going to happen. I know they've threatened and threatened it, but I do think that that would be good to do. But I'm going to see, I think.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I think from the customer's perspective, not from what they will ban or not, because in the end, you are here to serve them. Whenever I have the same type of mindset, let's say I was like, okay, I will just do it because they are there. They are using it, and it will serve them. And even if they ban it, it's fine because still people will have.

    Miriam:
    I just want to make sure I don't waste my time either. That's why. I mean, that's the thing. But you know what? I can always. I can always syndicate it to Instagram, too. So. Yeah, it's just. Again, yeah, it's just something I think I'm.

    Miriam:
    This, you know, mercury retrograde is a really good time to plan out things, and that's what I'm feeling like. I'm guided to do just like, once and for all, create an outline of what I need to do and when and what.

    Miriam:
    Just. It's not a good time to release anything. You know, it just really isn't. So. Yeah, we're just in that, that it's, it's, it's a tricky time right now. And actually, it just went retrograde just now, I think. Yeah. Um, on the 28th, it goes direct.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So, speaking about time, what is time? How perception. For you

    Miriam:
    The time. Oh, okay. As far as, um, as far as. Because you know what? I know some just don't think it really exists. But on earth it does. Right. But in the spirit world, no, it's different. It's absolutely different.

    Miriam:
    I don't believe that we are. I mean. Okay, let me back up here. I do believe there are parallel lives, parallel universes. I strongly do. So somewhere out there, there you are living your previous. One of your. Any of your previous lives.

    Miriam:
    Okay, so in that, in that sense, there's no time. But only on the physical we have this time. I mean, that's just the way it is. It's an earth thing.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    It's like weight, like, right?

    Miriam:
    Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Actually, this is really funny. I mean, I've been on a weight loss journey for a really long time, and I don't like how unflattering I look right now. But, you know, I got about 20 pounds to lose, so I've lost everything.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    We have weight, we have temperature, we have.

    Miriam:
    Oh, I know. Yeah. I just remember there was a really funny commercial along. I don't know, this was like a good 20 years ago where these businessmen had, like, one of this business. This business guy had, like, a piece of big chocolate cake and he said. And he said, I bet this is only three calories on the moon. I thought that was hilarious. That's funny.

    Miriam:
    That's funny.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Everything is relative.

    Miriam:
    Well, that's it. I thought that was funny. He's like, okay, well, let's see. If you eat it on the iss, then you're not going to gain weight. So.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Well, it's a game of perception. What can you say?

    Miriam:
    But, yeah, I mean, that's the thing. Time here definitely exists, but time in the spirit world and other universes.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Oh, yeah. You know, just not long ago, I met actually many, many psychic people who go into the illusion of time and they stop perceiving time at all here, stop perceiving the lures of this physical reality, and they start living in the illusory world. Nobody is talking about that kind of lack of discernment. So there is so much foam spiritual form in here. And it's not just people are doing it on purpose. I believe so, from what I see. Correct me if I'm wrong, I would love to hear your opinion here. It's because we get lost.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    We get lost from the ton of information. And then we go into something what we want to believe, especially. It refers to people who are over 50 and they want to just start looking better, younger, especially, like. And for us, for women, timing is a very, very important thing, right? We get birth based on timing. We make periods based on time based on timing. We age much quicker than guys, actually, in fact. So it's just timing is that thing. And I just want to ask you, do you meet such side of the psychic world, such women and men who are lost in timing and who kind of lose that perception, and then they go into some mental health disease problems.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    They don't see things correctly.

    Miriam:
    Yeah, well, you know, that's not something I. I believe it, but it's not something I've seen too much. It really isn't. But I can absolutely believe how that's the case. But here's. Yeah, I can definitely believe how that can happen. Sure. Yeah, that's the thing.

    Miriam:
    But I just want to say, too, when you are practicing astrology, then you absolutely know that time on earth is a thing, because look at all. Say, for instance, a Saturn return. Well, happened. Your first one is anywhere between 28 to 30. You start feeling the energies around 27. You still feel them until you're around 31. Then you have a second one around 58 to 60. And then, you know, and if you're fortunate to be around, you have one more at around 90.

    Miriam:
    Right. So.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Oh, yeah, yeah. By the way, I started starting not so long ago and I would have mesmerized by the fact that all the enlightened beings here, everyone, were meditating on time and death. It's so interesting. And just the biggest leaders in this world, they are all about that very, very strong perception of timing. It's just like our timing here is limited. They know they are here. They know they have that limited time. And I'm just like, and by the way, here in the tarot world, it's also like you jump from one card to another.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    You, you kind of like don't stay there forever, right?

    Miriam:
    Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So it's, it's very, very, very always for me to understand where people are from that time in perspective.

    Miriam:
    Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, definitely here. Yeah, it most definitely exists, but in the spirit world, no. So that's, that's my, that's my opinion. And I mean, others may, may differ as far as that goes, but I don't believe there really is, is time. I mean, there's time, but it's not the same as here. Right. I think, yeah.

    Miriam:
    Because I, from what I have heard and understand, and I do believe this 50 years on earth is like a blink of an eye in the spirit world.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Oh, by the way, in astrology, it's like, wait, wait, wait. So in Jupiter it's twelve years. Here, it's one year in Jupiter or something like this, right?

    Miriam:
    Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Correct me if I'm wrong or it's a twelve.

    Miriam:
    Yeah. So that's the thing. Jupiter, you have a Jupiter return every twelve years. So you have your first one at twelve and, you know, you do end up expanding. You become, you know, you're entering and.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Then 28 years, it's related to Saturn.

    Miriam:
    Your first, like Saturn return is. Right. That's when you have this urge. Okay, I've got to get serious with my life. You know, a lot of people tend to get married, have families or if they don't, if they don't go there, not everyone wants to do that. They end up choosing a career that they feel that, that aligns with the, basically it's a grow up time. Saturn return.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So did you have drastic changes in.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Your life at that period?

    Miriam:
    Oh, I definitely did have some, I definitely did have some interesting things happen with my Saturn return. But now I'm actually going to be dealing with my Chiron return soon, so that's going to be interesting. That's where a lot of old wounds that are going to come up that I'm going to have to deal with, and I'm already feeling it.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    But it's great that you get prepared. That's, by the way, the beauty of the astrology.

    Miriam:
    Yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Can foresee certain things and kind of get prepared. Put some cushions here.

    Miriam:
    But also that which makes this tricky is that around the same time, you also have a Sadeena square, right. A Saturn square, which is going to cause a lot of friction. You're going to be forced to deal with these things. I mean, this goes for everyone around this, this time period. I just turned 49, so I'm really into that, into that phase. But yeah.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    So tell me one thing. When you are into astrology and you kind of know certain predictions, how not to get sucked into those predictions and not to make them real just because that's the prediction, the constellation, and live your life just having that precaution, but still live your life joyfully because always, like, I had these, you know, kind of like positive sensation towards astrology because of that.

    Miriam:
    I understand. And you know what I am going to tell you right now, there's a few astrologers, I'm not going to name names, but there is one who is really, really bad with that. And like I said, I'm not going to name names because I don't want to do that. But anyway, here's the thing. Yes, you're going to have transits that are going to bring certain energies that will increase the likelihood of something happening, but it doesn't mean it will happen. So you have free will. You always have free will. Are things faded? I think in some cases, yes, but you're not necessarily going to know what they are because I don't think that's something you're meant to know.

    Miriam:
    Right. But as far as, as, say, for instance, if Saturn is transiting through your 12th house, that can be, you know, it's not a pleasant feeling. You may end up dealing with some mental health issues, depression and all that. So in that case, just be prepared for the possibility. It doesn't mean it will happen. It just means that this transit can bring the light that can increase the likelihood. Nothing is written in stone, just absolutely nothing is just, it's just be aware of what likely will happen based on transits. And that's the closest that you can get as far as predicting goes.

    Miriam:
    Right.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    All right, so, yeah, because it's just like a really good tip of advice for those, especially who are experiencing this, you know, anxiety within, especially when they start reading astrology. Some negative aspect of it, you know, is the same as with tarot. So you need to have that kind of, like, approach when you go there, that nothing is written in stone.

    Miriam:
    No, that's right. Absolutely. And any psychic that says that it is, run. Absolutely run. Just stay away from them, because nothing is written in stone like nothing is.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm actually. I wanted to finish our talk with a very, very important claim here for everyone who are listening, and we already touched it with you today. It's the discernment. Yes. Those who are experiencing mental health issues. Very important.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Very important to discern today from all this spiritual form which we have, because if we don't do it, we can actually go down, literally, like a big snowball into that happiness. And how to discern, I want to ask you, but my Methodist is one. Every time when I listen to someone, I want to ask also you how you discern. But my discernment method is, I basically ask myself, does it lift me up or it puts me down energetically? If it lifts me up, I continue listening. If it puts me down, bye bye.

    Miriam:
    Yeah, well, that's the other thing, too, right? I'm always open to hearing things, but if it doesn't align with me, then I just reject it. That's all. I'm open. I listen, but it doesn't mean I'm gonna take it. Right.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Yeah. Do you have a specific mantra maybe, or saying within, which kind of, like, creates that shield within you, especially when you go to any kind of events, there are lots of energy so that, you know, whatever is happening around will not, like, get stuck on to you.

    Miriam:
    Yeah, well, I don't really have a mantra per se, but here's the thing. You got to ask yourself, does this align with your truth? Does this. Does this match what you believe in? Does this match your values? And if it's a no, then reject it. I mean, that's. That's the thing.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I love this filtering question. It's so, so amazing.

    Miriam:
    Nice to meet you.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    It was a real pleasure to see you and have you today. Before we finish, could you please maybe make, like, some kind of phrase tip advice for all who were listening to us so that they would stand up erect and rise and shine?

    Miriam:
    Well, you know, the thing. The thing that I tell everybody is, be authentic. Just be authentic. Don't put on a show just because you're going to. You think you're going to impress people. You're not. People are going to know, just be true. Just be.

    Miriam:
    And you know what? I'm. But if they don't. If people don't like you. If they reject you. So what? So what? You know, it took me a long time to. It took me a long time to accept that reality. Not everyone's going to like you. And you ought to ask yourself, too, is that realistic? Because do you like everyone who you meet?

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    No. Yes. Yes. This is so, so amazing, because there are so many teachers here, and every teacher, it's like a partner here, right? We have our partners even here. And we have our specific parents. So they all designed for us for a reason. Yeah, because they all speak certain truths, all those teachers, whoever they are. But I may not really get tuned to that type of speaking.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Right. It doesn't mean that that's a bad teacher.

    Miriam:
    Yeah. No, absolutely. It just doesn't mean it aligns with who you are. And that's okay. It's just you're not going to be a good fit for everybody. And that doesn't mean you're bad. It just means you're not right for that.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    I love it. Be authentic.

    Miriam:
    Yes.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    All right. Thank you, Miriam. It was a real pleasure to have you today.

    Miriam:
    Thank you so much for having me. It was a pleasure.

    Yulia (Creator of the Tridevia Tarot Deck):
    Bye.

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